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  1. #311
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    Catastrophic bug? LOL nonsense.

    So far I just saw NO REAL evidence. All happened to friends, friends of friends, my cousin, and (why not?) my cat too had its house demolished in error.

    Nobody shown here his/her face and character name with HIS/HER own issue.

    Feels like an orchestrated campaign against autodemolition timers.
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  2. #312
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Catastrophic bug? LOL nonsense.

    So far I just saw NO REAL evidence. All happened to friends, friends of friends, my cousin, and (why not?) my cat too had its house demolished in error.

    Nobody shown here his/her face and character name with HIS/HER own issue.

    Feels like an orchestrated campaign against autodemolition timers.
    My friends uncles dads cat's kitten's cousin got the house auto demolished
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  3. #313
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    If this has been some kind of orchestrated campaign, then I am truly sorry for assisting those who started spreading this false information so much by making this thread and it helping their (potentially) false story go much farther and wider in the community. I was just a concerned player who wanted to get to the truth of what I was hearing because it made me really worried about my plots and everyone else who plays this game that has an attachment to them.

    I thought making this thread would bring much needed attention to the potential issue where there before was very little and that by now we'd have some actual evidence rather than people just saying "it happened to me or my friend's friend" too. I am truly surprised we have not had any concrete evidence, and have started to doubt this bug myself. Sigh, I felt it was best to be better safe than sorry than just waiting around to see what happens in case there WAS a bug and then more plots getting lost when they shouldn't have been.

    If the truth is this bug does not exist, and it turns out I just fell for their trick by panicking like many others here have now done, then I am truly sorry for mistakenly being part of the problem of false information - there just was no way of knowing for sure, so I was wanting to do the best thing I could about it, to do the right thing. I am so very sorry if this has all just been a prank I fell for and dragged others into. At the very least in that scenario, we can rest easy knowing our plots are safe.
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  4. #314
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    It's up to SE and those who were supposedly affected to prove if this bug really exist or not.
    I personally don't think this bug really exists but I won't claim this is orchestrated bad mouthing campaign targeting SE yet.
    There is a chance that is real and as long as I don't see proofs from the one or the other side I can't claim that it is real or not.
    It's not a bad thing to discuss something.
    Remember what happened with Ungramax. The bug was being exploited for months and SE acknowledged it and acted kinda late.
    That has also been discussed in Reddit and it proved real. Though there we had actual hard evidence.
    For this supposedly housing bug we need proofs like actual videos/screenshots/emails/character names/server names/logs/screenshot of the discussions between the player and GMs/Customer Support.
    If those players fear that they might get banned for the OF Forums or they already got a ban and they can't post here well there is Reddit.
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  5. #315
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    Good old mass paranoia, it's like the 2000s internet rumors spreading but now that we can have way to prove things it doesn't work anymore, lol :V

    + I like the fact that every person who declared to have a close experience with the subject just vanishes out of existence on every message board related to FFXIV when people are asking precisions about it.


    If there is ONE big problem, a REAL problem, is that Outlook/Hotmail and AOL/Yahoo, and certainly others, tend to put housing mails into the junk box automatically, or is just blocking them completely. (FFXIV-HOUSING@square-enix.com)

    + SE not notifying clearly in game, you have to check the calendar, we need a bit ol' "WARNING, HOUSE DEMOLITION ENGAGED"

    https://i.imgur.com/ZQRymGD.png

    I was close to lose my house on Ragna because i didn't checked my junk mails from awhile.

    Already happened, but last month, i didn't even got the 10 days warning, just the 3 days. I got very, very lucky (i checked the junk mails because i was registering to a forum), because i was kind of not very intensively playing the game and i completely forgot about going in the house that month.

    https://i.imgur.com/O6vzRCZ.png (you can see the previous warning, with another house)

    So yeah something doesn't work with the warning system. I think the problem start from there and difficulties of people remembering when was the last time theiy entered their house (i include myself there), it happens sometime.
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    Last edited by Eidi; 08-17-2018 at 09:32 PM.
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  6. #316
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxyn View Post
    If the truth is this bug does not exist, and it turns out I just fell for their trick by panicking like many others here have now done, then I am truly sorry for mistakenly being part of the problem of false information - there just was no way of knowing for sure, so I was wanting to do the best thing I could about it, to do the right thing. I am so very sorry if this has all just been a prank I fell for and dragged others into. At the very least in that scenario, we can rest easy knowing our plots are safe.
    There have been plenty enough voices in here and in other channels reminding people that this bug is unconfirmed but nevertheless something to watch out for. Even your first post says as much. I don't think there's anything to apologize for. This thread is here so we can investigate the validity of the reports and that's exactly what we're doing.

    If this was all a hoax, then great, no harm no foul. I can't say the same for the contrary. Many people value their homes and if this bug truly exists like many reports suggest then it's worth looking into.

    Should any more affected players come forward the best thing we can do is urge them to file a bug report with the necessary information.
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  7. #317
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Nobody shown here his/her face and character name with HIS/HER own issue.
    Ok, you want an actual issue? One of the issues happening happened to ME.

    Not the issue of timers being wrong, but definately the one of emails not being sent out. My old house (I have recently reacquired one) was demolished without a single email being sent. I have done as Bayohne said and checked the email linked to my service account and everything is correct on my side. As a result, I no longer trust the demolition system in the slightest, and I am constantly fearful of losing my house to another error on SEs part, like the one we are currently discussing.

    What I'm trying to say is that SOMETHING is going wrong on SEs side, and that the response of "Our investigation showed that nothing is wrong" is also flat out wrong, and you shouldn't assume that its just an orchestrated campaign.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidi View Post
    If there is ONE big problem, a REAL problem, is that Outlook/Hotmail and AOL/Yahoo, and certainly others, tend to put housing mails into the junk box automatically, or is just blocking them completely. (FFXIV-HOUSING@square-enix.com)
    I can vouch for emails not being sent to a Gmail account. I also checked the spam folder and there was nothing there.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 08-17-2018 at 09:52 PM.

  8. #318
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    Better save then sorry right? If those people are not lying then you brought all of our attention to this and might have stopped some demolishing on the way. And if somehow all these people just lied or remember the information wrong we might have had some panic for a bit but at least we know that our houses are save.

    I just want to finally know which side is true.

    (And as someone that has not received a mail from SE about my timer and do receive other mails from them I remain a bit skeptic about this.)

    In the end I just wish that if someone talks about a bug like that, that SE reacts a bit faster and halts the timer until its sorted out. This way nobody needs to fear it, nobody would be angry at them if the bug truly exists and they can take their time to investigate it.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-18-2018 at 07:22 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  9. #319
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    So we need to PSA and spread about the mails problem, not houses supposedly vanishing. If this is the heart of the problem.
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  10. #320
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    Quote Originally Posted by nranola View Post
    There have been plenty enough voices in here and in other channels reminding people that this bug is unconfirmed but nevertheless something to watch out for. Even your first post says as much. I don't think there's anything to apologize for. This thread is here so we can investigate the validity of the reports and that's exactly what we're doing.

    If this was all a hoax, then great, no harm no foul. I can't say the same for the contrary. Many people value their homes and if this bug truly exists like many reports suggest then it's worth looking into.

    Should any more affected players come forward the best thing we can do is urge them to file a bug report with the necessary information.
    There been plenty voices here? All I seen is "me too" and "that happend to a friend" but no follow ups or post from these supposedly affected people. Even on Reddit it been pretty silent for 3 days.

    I have been skeptic but given people benefit of the doubt IF it was true but there hasn't been any clear indication people got their houses removed in error.. Apart from that 1 guy that made a bug report.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eidi View Post
    If there is ONE big problem, a REAL problem, is that Outlook/Hotmail and AOL/Yahoo, and certainly others, tend to put housing mails into the junk box automatically, or is just blocking them completely. (FFXIV-HOUSING@square-enix.com)
    MSN, Hotmail, Livemail, Yahoo and Aol is notorious they block email like this or anything really coming from a company. It been a problem for years. Gmail all day long and you're safe. It not SE fault they get blocked or junk mail'd. It the user responsiblity to whitelist and allow email from SE.

    I have never had a problem with Gmail and I've got both notification about FC houses and personal across my alts.
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    Last edited by Luna-M; 08-17-2018 at 10:26 PM.
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