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Choppy Frame Stuttering (NOT LOW FPS PROBLEM)

Yes, I have the same issue

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Same issue, but in another area/after time

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No choppiness after doing steps (post system spec)

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Before stutter video #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FXCCGDdia0 After stutter video #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WHO7NRgF4 Before stutter video #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A-ZJD0zuu8 After stutter video #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71w0JP8BYcM THIS IS NOT A CASE OF LOW FPS. Monitored framerate is NOT dropping during the stutter. The game mostly runs great during combat between 60-144 fps. Silky smooth. I noticed some real annoying stuttering that gradually gets worse over time (very visible when trying to turn your character quickly), but strangely my FPS was still 60+. It would eventually get bad enough to become more than an annoyance and start to affect gameplay quite a bit. I could even go to orbit and my mouse cursor would skip around while moving it around in the menus with my fps as a solid 144. As soon as I restarted the game - BAM perfectly smooth again. Changing any graphics settings (vsync, aim smoothing, fullscreen, etc.) does not fix the bug. Switching drivers (the bug has been around for a year's-worth of driver updates now) - and even completely changing hardware - does not fix the bug. Most people seem to be getting the stutter the worst/fastest from doing public activities. My current theory is that it still has something to do with clan and/or public player list data piling up in the code and not getting properly cleaned out. What sets this bug apart from other stutter bugs?: 1) The stutter gets worse over time. Destiny 2 does not have the frame stutter immediately after starting the game. Noticeable difference after ~30-60 minutes of gameplay. Early on, [i]you[/i] might not notice it, but your brain does. 2) You can temporarily fix the stutter by restarting the game. Reportedly, some people get it to reset by returning to orbit... but not always. 3) Not a mouse polling issue. Still occurs with mouse disconnected and playing with only a controller. 4) Framerate does not drop precisely during the micro-stutter, nor after the stutter gets worse. OUTDATED bug reproduction info:[spoiler][i]This was initially a reliable way to reproduce the issue, but a lot has changed since then. It is still reproducible via these steps, but the bug is not as suddenly noticeable as it used to be): I have managed to reproduce this choppiness bug every time. I'd be interested in seeing if the exact same thing can be done by others with different rig setups: 1. Start up fresh game 2. Go to Artifact's Edge on Nessus and wait for public event - the Cabal Drill event. 3. AS SOON AS PUBLIC EVENT BEGINS (sky darkens, etc.) the choppiness starts. Only a game restart will fix this. Going back to orbit, or even loading into another area, the strange stuttering persists until game restart. I have noticed the game doing this "dropped frames" thing elsewhere - maybe just over time it gets worse. But this one public event was like night and day when it started.[/i][/spoiler] System info: [spoiler] BattleTag: Tychoid#1881 Configuration Info CPU: Intel Xeon W3520 @ 2.67GHz GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 4GB RAM: 12GB DDR3 ECC @ 1066MHz Game installed on SSD - in /Program Files/ Run as Administrator Triple monitor setup (144hz monitor main/game fullscreen is center monitor) All settings maxed (Vsync @ 144, Motion blur off, Film grain off, 1920x1080, 100% scaling) Various other settings tried in combination with no change in stutter bug GPU Driver Version: Nvidia 388.00 (thru 399.24) Operating System: Window 10 Pro 64bit (version 1703) No antivirus Possibly related processes: Rainmeter Steam friends list Battle.net friends list DisplayFusion Pro Chrome MSI Afterburner (Turned off with no change) RivaTunerStatisticsServer (Turned off with no change) Tested with and without numerous screen capture softwares (Nvidia/Rivatuner/etc.) Issue Information Destination/Activity: Nessus/Public Event Description: Massive game/frame suttering after public event starts. Framerate still high (60+) Issue persists until game is restarted.[/spoiler] Other threads with the same/similar issues (extra helpful ones [b]bolded[/b]): [spoiler]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248674024?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248588715?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248684566?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248674627?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248588715?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248617784?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248610911?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248732203?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248755976?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248922876?sort=0&page=0 [b]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248919046?sort=0&page=0[/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248800329?sort=0&page=0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248852523?sort=0&page=0 [/spoiler] [u]Edit Nov. 30 2017[/u]: This is still an issue even after the clan roster fix, although the performance degrades at a slower pace than it used to. Continuously doing public events is still the best/fastest way I have found to reproduce this issue. [u]Edit Sept. 7 2018[/u]: Still an issue. Have to restart the game every hour or so to reset the stutter. Many people reporting it being worse since Forsaken (more active clan & player lists aggravating the issue?) [u]Edit March 7 2019[/u]: Hasn't been fixed yet. Some evidence seems to show that the stuttering is in part triggered or made worse by FPS going over 60. So the more powerful your hardware, the worse you will see this bug. Which may explain why it was reported more frequently by people with higher end GPUs (1080s, 2080s, AMD equivalents, etc.). It would also match up with other 'above-60fps' engine bugs Destiny 2 has had in the past: weapon effect animations, jump pads, etc. Perhaps this coupled with something in public areas is causing the stuttering to gradually get worse.

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  • Same issue here on several systems. unplayable :/ ONLY in destiny2 too.

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  • Same here. It is especially bad when in the inventory, or vendor inventory or vault etc.

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  • Exact same issue. In fact as soon as you have a monitor > 60 Hz you will have this issue... I just changed from an old 1920 60 Hz to a QHD 165 Hz and the game is totally unplayable... Real FPS are 60, rendered FPS are 12 (you can see that with nvidia if you have one when you activate performance overlay)... I linked my new topic about that : https://www.bungie.net/fr/Forums/Post/260587213

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    • Same thing just happened to me just recently, its ridiculous this thing is still an issue. Bungie charges for dungeons now but cant fix an issue that has existed for over 3 years.

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      • I'm using quite old tech now, but before the game was silky smooth. Only stuttered alittlw on the moon when there were lots of enemies. Since season of the splicer its become extremely noticeable in gambit and pvp (which i play alot of). It says I'm 60 plus fps but I can feel the stutter like its dropped to 20. I used to max out settings and now I have to drop them down.

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        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjo2oRZ9kUE I followed this video and my game is running smooth again

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          • I didn't have this problem on my new PC, but since I have to send it in for repairs (the CPU cooler broke) I'm on my old PC again. But this didn't happen to me either before I got my new PC in August 2020. Just realized how bad this is. Current (Old) - AMD FX-6350 @3.9 GHz GeForce GTX 970 (4 GB) 16 GB RAM I used to be able to run the game on 1080p medium settings @60+ FPS without any stutters on this machine. Now I experienced the stutter and it's eating my inputs. For comparison: Main (New) - Intel Core i9-10900k @5.1 GHz GeForce RTX 2080s (8 GB) - MSI Gaming X Trio 32 GB RAM Game runs fine on 1080p Ultra despite the significant Performance loss since Beyond Light, now running on 90-120 FPS instead of 240 before the update. Really hoping they fix this soon.

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          • Its May 2021 I have this same issue just randomly started happening for me as well, about a week ago I'd say, no idea what triggered it. Definitely not the hardware, I have the GTX 3080. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, no change. Same thing with driver updates. Turning off g-sync doesn't change this issue, nor does capping my framerate at 60 or even lowering my graphics quality.

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            • I have that kind of Issue too and its not like staying the same over seasons. My recent case is between the last season and the current. Last season e.g cruicible and tower were the places where my fps were just halfed. This season cruicible & tower are working nice -5fps maybe but Gambit is a real pain in the ass. More than once i ran with around 20-30fps the whole game. Last season there was no problem at all. Battlegrounds is not stable abut ok its new :P

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            • Just posting to chime in like others that it's still happening today, in April 2021. In fact it just started for me today, with no changes made to any settings or my PC or monitor. Just like others, messing with graphics quality and V-sync didn't help. It does make it really hard to play as I'm working on a headache after three IB matches.

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              • March 22nd, 2021 This issue just randomly started happening for me as well, about a week ago I'd say, no idea what triggered it. Definitely not the hardware (3080, 3750xt, 32gb ram). I have tried uninstalling and re-installing, no change. Same thing with driver updates. Turning off g-sync doesn't change this issue, nor does capping my framerate at 60 or even lowering my graphics quality.

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                  Feb 2021 had this happen to me just bought a new monitor which is G-sync compatible disabled G-sync in the NVIDIA control panel that fixed the problem for me

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                • This is Crazy 30FPS with freezes and frame drops to 0 on EDZ behind the church. 1080p Freesync on and off. All settings set to low. No AA. This was a fresh install of windows 10 and a Radeon Vega 56 Drivers. Just signed up for Steam. So everything is a fresh install. Its actually more playable on my xbox 1. That doesn't make any sense. Thankfully this was free to play and I didn't buy beyond light for PC yet. Guess I will stick with my 4 year old xbox 1.

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                • january 30 2021. been having this stutter for a week now. never had this problem before. game runs smooth overal and never had anny graphical issue. but for the last week suddenly the game has this stutter or better say screen freezes for like half a second. in PVP this really pulls me out en make me die more than i should. really hope someone will come with a fix

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                  • Bearbeitet von FixateDCraB: 1/25/2021 3:42:25 PM
                    The issue came back for me after the latest patch (used to have it back in forsaken and it was addressed by a patch or hotfix on bungie's part). The game plays completely smooth for about an hr or 2 and then, like clockwork, the bug kicks in and it starts hitching. Restarting the game completely fixes the issue until it starts happening again an hr or 2 in a session. I've tried any hotfix under the sun but haven't found a solution so far, aside from restarting the game every couple of hrs. Things i've tried so far include: - Running ISLC (intelligent standby list cleaner) in the back with the correct values for my pc as suggested by the creator of the program. - Disabling fullscreen optimizations - Change high dpi settings -> Checking "Use this setting to fix..." and "Override high dpi scaling behavior" - Disabling/ Enabling Nvidia reflex/ reflex with GPU boost in the cvars.xml - Deleting the cvars.xml altogether - Disabling shader cache in the Nvidia control panel settings. - Deleting the NVCache folder and reinstalling drivers with the "Perform a clean installation" option on. - Disabling hardware acceleration in any program that i use while playing D2 (edge chromium, discord, steam). - Playing d2 with only steam running in the back and steam being in low resource mode (steam web browser disabled, friends offline, etc) via the no-browser, minigamelist launch options. - Changing windows sound quality to CD sound. - Disabling all overclocks - Running QuickCPU in the back - Probably a couple more tweaks that escape me atm. Specs: i7 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz 8 GB ram DDR3 @ 2133 Mhz Nvidia Geforce 1660 Super Latest windows 10 x64 build as of 25/01/2021 Latest firmware/ bios updates/ drivers (Nvidia driver 461.09). I'm hoping someone comes up with a fix but i'm not holding my breath since this bug has been going on for years now (just search for Destiny 2 hitching over time) with no concrete solution. IF a mod or Bungie employee is reading this please, i beg you, pass this to the code/ engine team so they can take a look.

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                  • Okay so this is Jan 6th 2021, I've been having this issue for a while and I wanted to try and help some people as I've done a bit a research, turning steam friend to offline still absolutely helps, in my case it did but it didn't resolve it, I only have 3 friend on steam either way, still would recommend trying it. graphics setting do not matter, I used low settings as a base line and it still happened then. I even got a new mouse because I kind of cheaped out on one and thought it might be polling(Was not the mouse). what did work was turning my monitor to 60 hertz instead of 144, that did wonders, its gonna feel terrible for a hot minute if you were playing on 144, but you get used to it. TLDR -Turn steam friends offline -Turn monitor to 60Hz Build -Ryzen 7 2700x -Asus x570 plus wifi -Corsair vengeance 16gb -2 Sk Hynix SSD's( one M.2 and one 2.5) -Power color 5700xt

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                  • Its only happened twice, but today it usually happened after I have tabbed back into the game. It says I have around 100fps but it freezes for multiple seconds at a time.

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                  • Has there been any fix? It's 2020 and its happening to me now too...

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                  • Bearbeitet von cassuttaja: 9/19/2020 11:26:47 PM
                    for me the problem was that it was stuttering despite the fps never dropping below 60+. the fix was to disable fullscreen optimizations in program settings, feels very smooth now. edit: https://gameranx.com/features/id/185188/article/destiny-2-new-light-how-to-fix-microstutters-disable-mouse-smoothing-avoid-auto-uninstallation-pc-tweaks-guide/#:~:text=Find%20Destiny2.exe,you're%20good%20to%20go.

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                    • Steam offline fixed it for me, I had 2000 friends so it was VERY VERY obvious and annoying.

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                    • HOW THE HELL IS THIS STILL A THING....Bungie figure ur shit out. charging 70$ for DLC on a broken ass game. have to restart every hour because i go from stable 144 to 7

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                    • 3200 people have this issue too, what the actual -blam!- is wrong with you bungie. i just wasted $75 on this new trash dlc just to see the game in its worst state ever. garbage developer

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                    • Suddenly started getting this issue myself, a few days ago. I reinstalled the game after not playing for 6 months or so. Played for about a week, buttery smooth. Then I started encountering a crashing problem, the Windows event code 00000005 or some such. So that was solved after I disabled XMP from bios, apparently Destiny or maybe a new Win update has just broken something about XMP. (I also updated video drivers to newest.) But after that, or maybe just about the same time, I'm getting these micro stutters. FPS stays high, 120+ or locked to 60 if I lock it. But the stuttering is still nasty, losing PvP fights etc. I think there was a Windows Update and/or a game update that might have messed things up. My GPU is weak but it already ran the game perfectly for about a week, so IDK. I'm currently doing a full reinstall of the game, and after that I'm gonna try the Offline Steam trick. Will report back. Ryzen 3600 1050Ti Gaming X 16gb 3200mhz CL14 B450 Tomahawk MAX Nothing OC'd while trying to determine the problems. Stock clock seems to be enough for D2 on low settings. And I'll take low settings if it means good performance in the most taxing gameplay, like big raid fights and stuff.

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                      • Can confirm Steam (yes really) is the problem like many others have said. Changing status to "Offline" 100% fixes the issue.

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                      • I think I figured out the issue! My problem: FPS drops frorm like 60 to around 40 every 5-10 seconds. Only happened on destiny and no other game. Too consistent so I thought it was to do with my memory, but alas it wasn't. Turns out it was STEAM. Yes the steam friendslist ingame refreshes every 5-10 seconds, and the more friends you have the more severe this problem will be! So I just set my steam to offline before starting up the game and it fixed the stutters. I could still join my friends using the direct join command so it wasn't a big deal. It reminded me of day 1 steam launch when people with large steam friends lists couldnt connect, so I immediately connected the dots and it all made sense. So I think a possible permanant fix for this is to remove people from your steams friends list. P.S. I have 450 steam friends.

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                        • after some really extensive tinkering with the same issue, I DO NOT think is the game, rather Windows 10. Why? D2 is not the only game that does it. The more Windows 10 gets updated, the more issues I have. Fresh install of windows does NOT fix the issue. I DID, however, use memory cleaner, emptystandbylist.exe, and set it to clean memory every 5 minutes, and the problem is a LOT less. try it and see. Here are some links: https://www.koshyjohn.com/software/memclean/ Just set options to trim processes working set every 5 minutes and clear system cache every 5 minutes. https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/7a0763/standby_memory_issue_causing_stutters_on_creators/ Just follow the guide. After I did these steps....among a million others, my games are MUCH less skippy. Try it out.

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