The establishment media continues to portray the Rohingya Muslims as the victims of “Buddhist terror.” Reality, as always, is not so simple.
“Myanmar searches for more Hindu corpses as mass grave unearthed,” SBS, September 25, 2017 (thanks to K.):
Violence has periodically cut through the western state, where communal rivalries have been sharpened by British colonial meddling, chicanery by Myanmar’s army and fierce dispute over who does — and does not — belong in Rakhine.
But the events of August 25, when raids by Rohingya militants unleashed a swirl of violence across the north, have sunk Rakhine to new depths of hate.
“All of our family died at the village… we will not go back,” said Chaw Shaw Chaw Thee, one of hundreds of displaced Hindus seeking shelter in the state capital Sittwe.
Bangladesh’s army was ordered Wednesday to take a bigger role helping hundreds of thousands of Rohingya who have fled violence in Myanmar, amid warnings it could take six months to register the new refugees.
The 20-year-old said she lost 23 family members as Rohingya militants swarmed the clutch of Hindu villages in Kha Maung Seik, near the Bangladesh border.
On Sunday the army said 28 badly-decomposed bodies of Hindu men, women and children had been pulled from two mass graves in the same area.
It was not immediately clear if they belonged to Chaw Shaw Chaw Thee’s family.
Heavily pregnant when she fled, she gave birth at a disused football stadium in Sittwe, where hundreds of traumatised Hindus now sleep on grubby mats in the overcrowded concourse.
An army lockdown has made it impossible to independently verify what happened in the villages of northern Rakhine, an area dominated by Rohingya Muslims who are a minority elsewhere in the mainly Buddhist country.
But allegations, carved along ethnic lines, are spinning out as conspiracy and competing identity claims override empathy between former neighbours.
Hindus, who make up less than one percent of Rakhine’s population, accuse Rohingya of massacring them, burning their homes and kidnapping women for marriage….
“We were barbers for Muslims, our women sold things in Muslim villages, I had Muslim friends, we had no problems,” said Kyaw Kyaw Naing, a 34-year-old Hindu who can dance across linguistic divides in Hindi, Rakhine, Burmese and Rohingya.
Community ties in what is also Myanmar’s poorest state have now unravelled.
“We want to go back, but we will not if the Muslims are there.”
Jaladhi says
And the world is saying India should admit these murderers in their country just like what Europeans are doing to their countries!! Totals morons!1
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Already under congress regime rohingya muslims in thousands were given free entry into India. They are all over India including Andhra Pradesh. No wonder owaisis & leftists like mani shankar aiyars are supporting them.
Earlier it was fakhruddin ali ahmed a muslim governor of West Bengal who allowed free entry for many bangladeshi muslims into India letting them consolidate as one massive vote bank for congress party & their communist allies ( jypti basus etc). The same muslim fakhruddin ali ahmed was also president of India for certain years. This is called secularism in India. Secular democracy where inimicals of Hindus get empowered. Those illegal bangladeshi muslim infiltrators were all given ration cards including citizenship rights.
They take multiple wives & keep breeding profusely. No wonder too many bangladeshi muslims are spread all over Europe.
Hari Singh says
Muslims are forbidden to ”marry” Hindus, Sikhs Buddhists as they are non-people of the book. The choices of non people of the book are even more limited either forced conversion or death. All of these women face forced conversion as a pretext for rape.
No doubt the Muslim community valuing women children less has a marked disparity between male and female members of their community, due to high female infant mortality rates, making potential wives unavailable for all the men.
Tiberius says
No. Muslims can “marry” (rape, kidnap) nonMuslims or take them as sex slaves. But NonMuslims cannot marry Muslims. That is how it works.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Tiberious, I think what you meant was a Mohammadin man can “marry” non Mohammadin woman (but he must, in his heart, hate her). But a non Mohammadin man cannot marry a Mohammadin woman.
As well, all children of a Mohammadin man are considered Mohammadin irrespective of the mother. Some believe that when a Mohammadin man has sex with a non Mohammadin woman, she automatically becomes Mohammadin.
PRCS says
Should be able to find Muslim wives just across the border in Bangladesh.
Go there.
Stay there.
Halaku says
Hindus were declared People of the Book, by the Caliph, after the conquest of Sindh by the Arabs. That is why Hindus were given the choice of paying Jiziya and living as Dhimmis/Zimmies.
Indian Muslims prefer marrying Hindu girls because they are brainier and well educated. But more importantly, because it means one more Kafir whose potential mate is taken away, so the reproductive Kafir population keeps decreasing, while that of Muslims keeps going through the roof. .
gravenimage says
Yes–India should not take in any of these murderous thugs. Send them to Bangladesh.
El Cid says
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Michael says
They’re worse than murderers. They are blasphemers and idolaters.
gravenimage says
You believe that blasphemy is worse than murder? That’s what Muslims think…
mortimer says
Islam has always advanced through ethnic cleansing and by attacking the NEAR ENEMY.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2009/02/the_nearenemy_theory.html
“Jihadis speak of the “near enemy” (apostate regimes in and around the Middle East) and the “far enemy” (the United States and the West generally). The man credited with coining these terms, Mohammed Abd al-Salam Faraj, did so largely to emphasize that it was much more important to attack the near enemy, a principle he upheld by organizing the 1981 assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. (The Egyptian government affirmed the same principle in executing Faraj.) In 1993, a militant Egyptian group called al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya (“the Islamic Group”), which had extensive ties to al-Qaida, broke with the “near enemy” strategy and bombed the World Trade Center. In 1996, al-Qaida followed suit and formally turned its attention to the far enemy.”
Santa Voorhees says
“The establishment media continues to portray the Rohingya Muslims as the victims of “Buddhist terror.”
What? I thought terrorism had no religion…
Chand says
Lawlessness is now the order of things there. Jihadi murderers are taking advantage of the situation, although the ARSA have denied committing this atrocity. We do not attack civilians, they claimed. Other rouge Jihadis might have done it.
No independent observers are allowed there. One has to rely on the Myanmarese Army’s versions of events. Many Rohingyan Hindus have fled the army atrocities too. Hope the Army’s not at fault here…………
This atrocity is totally condemn-able. As well as any attack on any innocent civilian in any kind of war.
The Su-Kyi govt. should recognize the basic human rights of all citizens there, irrespective of religion and ethnicity. They should control their army, stop attacking innocent civilians and try harder to provide security and the rule of law to all. They should grant citizenship to the Rohingyas born in Myanmar and take back all refugees from there and not force other neighboring countries to bear their burden.
gravenimage says
Uh…right. In other words, Myanmar should be forced to accept these ravening Jihadists in their midst, and even accept back those who have left. And if there are more Jihad terror attacks, it is the fault of the Burmese army, not the Jihadists themselves.
Nice try, creep…
Chand says
So now i’m the creep, eh? gravenimage.
Since when have all Muslims become ‘ravening Jihadists’? There are surely murderous Jihadis amongst Muslims, but are all Muslims to be collectively punished for the crimes of a few?
Since when are all co-religionists of criminals to be punished”? Or people from the same ethinc group or nation or tribe?
Did the glorious Army of France descend on French Muslims for the recent Paris attacks or the horrific Nice truck attack and shoot them, burn their houses and mosques and drive them out across the border of France? Did the Spanish Army do so after the Barcelona van attacks there?
I know that creeps and crypto-Hitlerites like you would love that but that ain’t gonna happen as long as civilized humans rule. No one is responsible for the crimes of others. This is one of the cornerstones of human civilization.
If Myanmarese soldiers were killed by insurgents then the killers must be identified and punished. But punishing a whole ethnic or religious group is surely not justified by any standards. Why shouldn’t the standards that apply to the people of the civilized nations not apply to the Rohingyas, whether Hindus or Muslims?
Has the American, German, Belgian, British or even the Israeli govts. meted out collective punishments for terrorism committed? Even the Israelis have only demolished houses of known and convicted terrorists as punishment, sparing lives. Why is the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Myanmarese army on unarmed civilians, whether Muslim, Hindu or whatever be justified?
All atrocities on civilians in a conflict are to be condemned. This horrific atrocity is intolerable. And so are all atrocities on innocent civilians.
You, gravenimage, are a hypocritical sympathizer of genocide, although you pretend to be a humanitarian who is against violent reprisals against innocents. You say you are against fascist and Nazi-like pogroms but is blind when it comes to these dirt poor humans, without land and hope, drifting from place to place, not accepted by anyone, despised by all, sometimes drowning in the seas in rickety boats, floating around to be given shelter and food………………………….
You vehemently deny Nazism and the final solution but quickly blame a whole group of tormented, terrorized and brutalized humans just because they happen to be Muslims. BTW, you are well informed and educated but don’t you know that Hindus too have been escaping from the Army’s atrocities in Myanmyar? They too narrate harrowing tales of indiscriminate killings of Bengali civilians there, Muslim and Hindu.
It is the Myanmarese army and govt that is at fault here. They must recognize the Rohingyans, whose ancestors have settled here many centuries ago as legitimate citizens of Myanmar and not carry on genocide and ethnic cleansing against them.
Where will these people go? Why are they not recognized as citizens and not given basic human rights there? You expect humans to just drown themselves in the seas out of shame for being Muslims?
Let me inform your dumb and stupid mind that this won’t happen. Two out of ten might give up, surrender and sink themselves, blaming fate. But two out of ten will surely fight and strive to live for their families and children. That surely is just.
Instead of sympathizing with desperate fellow humans, struggling to just survive for another day, they are being demonized just because of being born into a particular group, tribe or religion.
This has happened before and there have been people like you, gravenimage who have turned a blind eye or been complicit in crimes against humanity.
Whole communities, groups and minorities have been scapegoated for crimes committed by others, and harassed, tormented, massacred, subject to inhuman treatment with severe and unforgivable injustices committed against them.
To repeat……….I’m sure there are vicious murderous Jihadis amongst the Rohingyans. But that is not an excuse to oppress, try to murder or drive out a single innocent, civilian Rohingyan. The Myanmarese govt must cease this genocidal ethnic cleansing, recognize and protect all its innocent citizens, whether Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or the various ethnic tribals there, like the Nagas, Kachins, Shan, etc.
Anyway, this is the opinion of the civilized world that you pretend to come from, gravenimage, and not my personal opinion solely.
Just because they are Muslims doesn’t mean that all Rohingyan Muslims are guilty of murderous Jihad, just as all Germans weren’t to be blamed for the Holocaust.
And of couse, millions of Jews of Europe were wrongly punished for illusory and imaginary crimes committed by them.
Punish the perpetrators of crimes and spare the innocent. Or do you pretend to be ignorant of this simple humanistic fact, blinded by an irrational hatred of all Muslims, granvenimage, you pathetic, twisted, bigoted creature?
Mahendra Singh says
Howsoever you settle your problems do it with Myanmar. Just do
not send these Rohingia bastards in the direction of India.
gravenimage says
Chand wrote:
So now i’m the creep, eh? gravenimage.
Since when have all Muslims become ‘ravening Jihadists’?
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Muslims mass kidnapping, raping, and slaughtering Hindus are indeed ravening Jihadists, whatever you pretend.
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There are surely murderous Jihadis amongst Muslims, but are all Muslims to be collectively punished for the crimes of a few?
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Inviting in hordes of Muslims–as you demand–is indeed a *very* bad idea. Wherever this happens, Jihad savagery like that in the story above happens.
And why wouldn’t it? This is what Islam teaches. This is not just happening in Myanmar, but all over the world, including in the West now.
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Since when are all co-religionists of criminals to be punished”? Or people from the same ethinc (sic) group or nation or tribe?
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Islam is *not* an “ethinc” group. It is a violent ideology. This is like demanding that nations must take in Nazis.
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Did the glorious Army of France descend on French Muslims for the recent Paris attacks or the horrific Nice truck attack and shoot them, burn their houses and mosques and drive them out across the border of France? Did the Spanish Army do so after the Barcelona van attacks there?
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What a load of crap. Opposing Jihad savagery does *not* mean you are a savage yourself. Nice try…
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I know that creeps and crypto-Hitlerites like you would love that but that ain’t gonna happen as long as civilized humans rule. No one is responsible for the crimes of others. This is one of the cornerstones of human civilization.
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Opposing kidnapping, rape, and murder of civilians does *not* make one a “crypto-Hiterite”.
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If Myanmarese soldiers were killed by insurgents then the killers must be identified and punished. But punishing a whole ethnic or religious group is surely not justified by any standards. Why shouldn’t the standards that apply to the people of the civilized nations not apply to the Rohingyas, whether Hindus or Muslims?
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Where are Hindus taught to rape and murder non-Hindus? Chapter and verse, please.
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Has the American, German, Belgian, British or even the Israeli govts. meted out collective punishments for terrorism committed? Even the Israelis have only demolished houses of known and convicted terrorists as punishment, sparing lives. Why is the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Myanmarese army on unarmed civilians, whether Muslim, Hindu or whatever be justified?
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What rot. This is the usual–if you say you are opposed to Jihad terror, then you are–somehow–for brutalizing Muslims. This is nothing but projection.
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All atrocities on civilians in a conflict are to be condemned. This horrific atrocity is intolerable. And so are all atrocities on innocent civilians.
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What is happening in Myanmar is a Jihad against the Infidels. Needy refugees fleeing violence do not stop to kidnap women and burn down homes, as Chand pretends.
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You, gravenimage, are a hypocritical sympathizer of genocide, although you pretend to be a humanitarian who is against violent reprisals against innocents. You say you are against fascist and Nazi-like pogroms but is (sic) blind when it comes to these dirt poor humans, without land and hope, drifting from place to place, not accepted by anyone, despised by all, sometimes drowning in the seas in rickety boats, floating around to be given shelter and food………………………….
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“Dirt poor humans” who are kidnapping and raping Infidels, and burning down their homes.
Notice that Chand has not a word of criticism for this savagery, nor does he acknowledge that this is done on the texts and tenets of Islam, and on the model of the “Prophet”.
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You vehemently deny Nazism and the final solution but quickly blame a whole group of tormented, terrorized and brutalized humans just because they happen to be Muslims.
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These poor brutalized humans are raping and slaughtering Infidels. How *dare* any Infidels complain? *Bad dhimmis*…
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BTW, you are well informed and educated but don’t you know that Hindus too have been escaping from the Army’s atrocities in Myanmyar? They too narrate harrowing tales of indiscriminate killings of Bengali civilians there, Muslim and Hindu.
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Where did I give the Myanmar army a free pass? Chand is being dishonest here. If they are brutalizing innocent people, of course this is wrong.
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It is the Myanmarese army and govt that is at fault here.
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Well, of course, They *forced* the poor Mohammedans to rape and murder Infidels. Bad, bad Kuffar–it is *always* their fault when Muslims have to slaughter Infidels. After all, they are not Muslims, so of course they are fair game.
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They must recognize the Rohingyans, whose ancestors have settled here many centuries ago as legitimate citizens of Myanmar and not carry on genocide and ethnic cleansing against them.
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And welcome in those who have left, as you note. Rape and murder of Infidels is a small price to pay…
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Where will these people go? Why are they not recognized as citizens and not given basic human rights there? You expect humans to just drown themselves in the seas out of shame for being Muslims?
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Of course not. As here, I expect them to rape and murder Infidels in the name of their faith. Unlike some, I do *not* consider this a good thing.
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Let me inform your dumb and stupid mind that this won’t happen.
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*Of course* this won’t happen. When have Muslims *ever* been ashamed of abusing Infidels? It is astonishingly rare, and not something I ever expect.
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Two out of ten might give up, surrender and sink themselves, blaming fate. But two out of ten will surely fight and strive to live for their families and children. That surely is just.
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What could be more just than raping and murdering Infidels in Jihad? This is what all pious Muslims believe.
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Instead of sympathizing with desperate fellow humans, struggling to just survive for another day, they are being demonized just because of being born into a particular group, tribe or religion.
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I’m sorry–kidnapping women and burning down the houses of Infidels is *not* a part of survival. Where did Chand ever get the idea that it was?
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This has happened before and there have been people like you, gravenimage who have turned a blind eye or been complicit in crimes against humanity.
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Actually, I consider rape and slaughter to crimes against humanity. So sorry that Chand does not.
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Whole communities, groups and minorities have been scapegoated for crimes committed by others, and harassed, tormented, massacred, subject to inhuman treatment with severe and unforgivable injustices committed against them.
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Pointing out that rape and murder are bad things is *not* scapegoating the perpetrators. I actually consider these to be bad things.
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To repeat……….I’m sure there are vicious murderous Jihadis amongst the Rohingyans. But that is not an excuse to oppress, try to murder or drive out a single innocent, civilian Rohingyan.
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Who ever said it was?
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The Myanmarese govt must cease this genocidal ethnic cleansing, recognize and protect all its innocent citizens, whether Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or the various ethnic tribals there, like the Nagas, Kachins, Shan, etc.
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I don’t consider rape and murder to be “innocent”. Only pious Muslims consider violent Jihadists to be innocent.
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Anyway, this is the opinion of the civilized world that you pretend to come from, gravenimage, and not my personal opinion solely.
Just because they are Muslims doesn’t mean that all Rohingyan Muslims are guilty of murderous Jihad, just as all Germans weren’t to be blamed for the Holocaust.
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No one ever blamed all the Germans for the Holocaust. But the idea that we should hence have done nothing to stop it is, I believe, quite mistaken.
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And of couse (sic), millions of Jews of Europe were wrongly punished for illusory and imaginary crimes committed by them.
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Of course, this is true. Is Chand hoping that we believe that all these reports of Muslims waging violent Jihad are similarly false? It certainly sounds like it…
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Punish the perpetrators of crimes and spare the innocent. Or do you pretend to be ignorant of this simple humanistic fact, blinded by an irrational hatred of all Muslims, granvenimage (sic), you pathetic, twisted, bigoted creature?
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Demanding that Infidels invite in more Muslims to rape and murder them unless they want to be deemed “twisted” and “bigoted” is suicidally grotesque.
Enabling mass rape and slaughter of your own citizens is *not* humanistic, whatever Chand pretends.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“No independent observers are allowed there.”
Where, Chand, would one find such a independent, unbiased observers? I don’t think they exist. These so-called observers are given marching orders by their editors/keepers. And these editors/keepers want to keep their jobs so they all tow the party line, which is probably set by middle eastern oil money. And that party line is “the poor, poor, poor Rohingya – the bad, bad, bad Buddhists.”
Good on the Myanmar army for not letting biased observers into the region. Let the MSM speculate on what’s happening. BTW my best guess is that Buddhist civilians have had enough of the Bengalis and are determined to go at them. In this situation the army is present to minimize fatalities and get the unwelcomed Bengalis to leave before the locals kill them. I have noted from the MSM reports made at the Bangladeshi border, that there are lots of Bengalis crossing. If there was a genocide or death march going on you wouldn’t see these numbers. And whenever a microphone is put in front of their faces, every last one claims that a distant (or not so distant) relative was murdered by a Buddhist. If the MSM were unbiased then why would they not document the claimant to genocide? (Once the region stabalizes these claims could be investigated.) But I would bet that most Mohammadins who make a claim to genocide wouldn’t be able back it with facts. (A fourteen hundred year history of playing the victim.)
The Hindus in this article are pointing the finger at the Mohammadin Bengalis not the Buddhists. Reread the article. The Hindus say: “We want to go back, but we will not if the Muslims are there.” They did NOT say, “We want to go back, but we will not if the Buddhists or the Myanmar army are there.” The Myanmar army is protecting the general population.
You, sir or madam, are attempting to portray these Mohammadin Bengali bandits as victims. They are the perps and have been since before 1947 when the retreating Brits armed them (and they killed over 60,000 Buddhists).
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Exactly.
Ask any Hindu about the purpose of this life….he / she would answer Mokha …to attain Salvation….
But muslims have no such Moksha objective….their aim in life is to KILL , rape , plunder , loot , invade , convert….all encapsuled in their word jihad.
Several years ago one bbc reporter asked some young bangladeshi muslims rocking back & forth inside their mosques about what they plan to do ..& all of them replied ” we will go & convert all non muslims to islam”.
I pray appeaser Angela Merkel understands this.
Halaku says
To be sure, Islam has helped over 80 million Hindus attain liberation in the past centuries and is prepared to help millions more. Sadly, many Hindus have stopped thinking that way now and are refusing the long standing kind offer from the Muslims for any help.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Read what Sri.Jaideep Mazumdar has to say:-
//Abdul Razak Ali Artan fumed against persecution of Rohingyas (migrants from Bangladesh’s Chittagong province) in Myanmar (Burma) and used that as a justification to carry out an act of terror in Ohio, USA. He drove a car into a crowd of students, staff and faculty of Ohio State University on Monday, where he was a student, and then got down to attack them with a butcher’s knife, leaving eleven persons injured. Artan was then shot dead by a police officer.
But Artan was ignorant of history. Had he studied the history of Myanmar, and of that country’s Rakhine province that the Rohingyas populate, he would have got to know how the Rohingyas themselves had massacred, raped, looted, enslaved and forcibly converted the indigenous Buddhist people of Rakhine region for many decades.
Artan would have got to know that Rohingyas have been, since the 15th century, an unwelcome presence in Rakhine. Muslims from Bengal, which was then ruled by Sultans, made their first appearance in Rakhine in the first part of the 15th century. In the earliest part of the 15th century, due to a line of weak Rakhine kings, its two powerful eastern neighbours–the kingdoms of Ava and Hanthawaddy (Pegu)–started jostling for control. Rakhine became the theatre for a forty year war between Ava and Pegu that drove out the Rakhine king Narameikhla Min Saw Mon (1380 to 1433) from his kingdom in late 1406.
Saw Mon sought refuge in neighbouring Bengal and entered the service of Bengal Sultan Jalaluddin Muhammad Shah. Saw Mon proved to be a good commander and became close to the Sultan. In 1429, he convinced the Sultan to help him invade Rakhine; the Sultan agreed and provided troops, mainly Afghan adventurers. The attackers defeated the then rulers of Arakan, as Rakhine was known as then, and Saw Mon was installed as the Rakhine king.
However, Saw Mon, who founded the kingdom of Mrauk U, became a vassal of the Bengal Sultan and was forced to allow thousands of Bengali speaking Muslims to settle in his kingdom. He was also forced to accept the use of Islamic coins of Bengal and was given an Islamic title despite being a Buddhist. Historians say that an estimated 18,000 Bengali Muslims settled in Rakhine that time. Rakhine remained a vassal state of Bengal till 1531.
But from 1531 to 1629, Portuguese pirates operating along Bengal’s western coast (especially around Chittagong, sold many Bengali Muslim boys and girls they used to capture from Bengal to rulers and nobles of Rakhine and, thus, the population of Bengali Muslims in Rakhine increased further in the early 17th century.
Rakhine was conquered by Burma’s Konbaung dynasty in 1785 and following persecution of the Rakhine people by the Bamars (the dominant ethnic group in Burma), tens of thousands of Rakhines fled to Chittagong province. The Bamars also executed thousands of Rakhine men and deported most of the local population to central Burma. Many Burmese historians quote texts and accounts of those times to hold that the Bengali Muslims, who had started calling themselves Rohingyas (people of Rooingya, as the Bengalis used to call Arakan), helped the Bamars persecute the Rakhines. In return, the Rohingyas received protection from the Bamars. The Rohingyas’ co-religionists in Bengal also started looting and torturing the Rakhine refugees, raping their women and forcibly converting them to Islam.
Rakhine thus became a thinly populated province by the time of the First Anglo-Burmese War (1824-1826) which resulted in the annexation of Arakan by the British. And then started the second, and more intense wave, of migration of Bengali Muslims to Arakan. The British started bringing in Bengali Muslims to work as labourers in farmlands and other trades. The population of Bengali Muslims increased dramatically and by the late 19th century, they formed more than 20 per cent of the population of Arakan. The fact that the British East India Company extended theBengal Presidency to Arakan also encouraged this migration and demographic change in Arakan.
This demographic shift caused by the unabated migration of Bengali Muslims from Chittagong to Arakan triggered racial tensions between the indigenous Rakhines and the settlers. Clashes started erupting between the two groups, forcing the British to set up a special investigation commission led by one James Ester and Tin Tut (who became independent Burma’s first foreign minister). Though the commission recommended a halt to further migration and sealing the borders of Arakan with Bengal, these remained only on paper since the British retreated from Arakan at the outbreak of World War II.
And then started another bloody chapter in relations between the Muslim Rohingyas and Buddhist Rakhines. The absence of the British sparked violent clashes between the two groups. The British had given huge caches of arms to the Rohingyas in northern Arakan to stave off the invading Japanese and act as a buffer to British India, as also to take on the Rakhines who had started supporting the Japanese. In March 1942, Rohingyas killed 20,000 Rakhines in northern Arakan, something that the Somali-origin Artan (the Ohio attacker) who spent seven years in Pakistan before migrating to the US in 2014 would have been blissfully unaware of.
Once the Japanese overran large stretches of Burma, they started committing atrocities not only on the Rohingyas, but also the indigenous Burmese (including the Rakhines), Anglo-Burmese, British and the Indian migrants settled in Burma. They all fled to India; about 22,000 Rohingyas took shelter in Bengal. The British once again armed the Rohingyas and organised them under a ‘Volunteer Force’ to harass the Japanese. But the Rohingyas once again turned on the Rakhines, killing them and destroying their houses, Buddhist monasteries and pagodas, raping their women and forcibly converting them. Artan would also have been ignorant of this.
The Rakhines started harbouring a deep-seated distrust and animosity towards the Rohingyas. This became more deep-seated when the Rohingyas started demanding integration of Arakan with East Pakistan during the mid-1940s when two-nation demand gained ground. Just before Burma gained independence in January 1948, the Rohingyas appealed to Pakistan’s founder Muhammad Ali Jinnah to ask the British to incorporate Arakan in East Pakistan. Jinnah refused, saying he did not want to interfere in Burma’s affairs.
But the unfazed Rohingyas founded the Mujahid Party in 1948 to carry on a jihad against the Rakhines in northern Arakan with the ultimate aim of creating a Muslim country of Arakan. They carried out many strikes against the Rakhines and their Buddhist shrines and monasteries, even torturing and killing Buddhist monks. It was only after the 1962 coup in Burma by General Ne Win that the military started cracking down on Rohingya terrorists who had the complete support of all the Rohingyas in Arakan. This triggered a moderate exodus of Rohingyas, who still form about 40 per cent of the population of Rakhine province, to East Pakistan. Many Rohingyas also migrated to West Pakistan.
But another wave of migration of Bengali Muslims to the Rakhine province took place during the genocide unleashed by West Pakistani troops on the Bengali-speaking people of East Pakistan in 1971. This migration, totalling to an estimated 750,000, to Burma continued even after the formation of Bangladesh (in December 1971) till 1973. Due to immense pressure from Buddhist monks and indigenous people of Burma, and fed up with the continuing attacks on security forces and installations as well as killings of indigenous Burmese by Rohingya terrorists, Ne Win’s government drove off 200,000 Rohingyas to Bangladesh till 1978. Bangladesh protested, and the UN intervened to force Burma to take back all the ousted Rohingyas. The New Win regime then enacted a citizenship law denying citizenship status to Rohingyas.
Rohingya terrorists have been carrying out many attacks in the Rakhine province and in the northern part of the province where they form nearly 90 per cent of the population, they have long followed a systematic pogrom of killing and driving away the indigenous Rakhines, and destroying Buddhist shrines. The Myanmar authorities have, naturally, cracked down very hard on them, thus triggering their exodus to Bangladesh and South-East Asia. The Rohingyas have killed scores of Myanmarese troops and police officers. The latest was a series of attacks on Myanmarese posts bordering Bangladesh by a Rohingya Islamic terror organisation called Rohingya Solidarity Organisation in early October that left nine police officers dead. Myanmarese security forces are engaged in a fresh anti-terror operation against the Rohingya terrorists which the Rohingyas and bleeding-heart human rights bodies term as ethnic cleansing.
The propaganda whitewashing centuries of bloody acts by the Rohingyas, their ethnic cleansing and genocide against Rakhines and their trying to take over an integral part of Myanmar by sheer force after totally altering its demographic composition is what drove Artan to his dastardly act. Human rights activists gloss over the fact that the Rohingyas too have blood on their hands. They paint the Rohingyas as the only victims of ethnic cleansing in Myanmar when the facts of history are quite contrary to that. Unfortunately, most of the world buys this false narrative//
https://swarajyamag.com/world/ohio-attacker-was-wrong-rohingyas-too-have-a-bloody-history-to-answer-for
TL says
Thanks for posting that eye opening piece and for bringing Swarajya Mag to our attention.
Fyi, you may be interested to learn that The Wall Street Journal has been a pious supporter of the myth that the “Rohingya” are entirely innocent victims. In fact, it has even published a tear jerking photograph above the fold on the first page of section A.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
That is right. Even the current Pope , UN & various leftists who are the most harmful idiots have been falsely portraying rohingya muslims as ”victims”.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
//On this day August 16 , exactly 71 years ago, Kolkata (then Calcutta) experienced its most violent convulsions. The infamous ‘week of long knives’ – an unprecedented orgy of loot, murder, rapes and molestation let loose on the city’s unsuspecting Hindus by Muslim League strongmen and goons that left 5,000 people dead, tens of thousands maimed and an estimated 1.2 lakh homeless – started with the call for ‘direct action’ on 16 August 1946 by League supremo Muhammad Ali Jinnah.
The Butcher of Bengal
And Calcutta was the only city where Muslim League goons started attacking Hindus on that day. The attack was orchestrated by the diabolic Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, the then chief minister of Bengal, with the sole intention of terrorising Hindus and forcing them to accept Bengal’s inclusion into the proposed Pakistan. He engineered the killings, maiming, rape and molestation of tens of thousands of Hindus in Calcutta, prevented the police from going to the aid of Hindus and then triggered the Noakhali riots in October-November that year that left an estimated 5,000 Hindus dead, while 10,000 were raped and forcibly converted to Islam along with a few thousand Hindu families.
Since 1947, Marxist and Nehruvian historians and scholars have successfully whitewashed the grave crimes of Suhrawardy and made him a respectable figure. Few people know that Suhrawardy, who went on to become Pakistan’s prime minister, is actually the ‘butcher of Bengal’. It is, thus, necessary to revisit history and set the record straight on Suhrawardy as well as his murderous Muslim League colleagues.
Suhrawardy’s Plan
United Bengal was then a Muslim-majority province with only 42 per cent Hindus, but Calcutta had 64 per cent Hindus and 33 per cent Muslims. Bengal was the only province in British India where a Muslim League government was in power. Jinnah’s call for the creation of Pakistan found an ardent advocate in Suhrawardy, who wanted the entire Bengal and Assam to become part of Pakistan. He was desperate to include Hindu-majority Calcutta and some of its Hindu-majority neighbouring districts into Pakistan. Calcutta was, even then, the first city of British India and would have been a prized pick for the proposed Pakistan nation. But since Hindus were in a majority in the city and its neighbouring districts, they would, Suhrawardy felt, have to be reduced to a minority through killings and large-scale riots and then beaten into submission…..
Read the entire article please. bbc is NOT going to report. Contemporary India is too engrossed in worshipping bollywood tinsel heroes & cricket.
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/its-a-crying-shame-that-the-butcher-of-bengal-has-a-road-named-after-him-in-kolkata
TL says
“After the piece was published, several alert users have pointed out that the road was actually named after Sir Hassan Suhrawardy who was the Vice Chancellor of Calcutta University.” So it appears that the journalist, Jaideep Mazumdar, was a little too concerned about finding faulting fault with others when his best interests would have been served by remembering a warning given thousands of years ago by S. Gotama. The sage of the Shakyas observed that the corruptions of fault finders grow and grow. You can find his warning in the Dhammapada of the Pali canon; it’s in the first six or seven chapters, if my memory serves me well.
Still, the Muslim League hasn’t been exhonerated from its deeds, and now there’s an interesting segue into a discussion about how a person like Hassan Suhrawardy could have obtained the title “Sir” merely for being a useful tool who stopped a person who attempted to kill Stanley Jackson. Wikipedia claims that this Suhrawardy “was active in the Muslim League, renouncing his knighthood a month before his death in August 1946.” He “also played a role towards the establishment of the East London Mosque”.
Yes, that masjid.
Infidel says
And the same parallel phenomena is happening in Kashmir too…
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Let me augment your detailed history a little, if I may:
After 1947 the Bengalis Mohammadins have REGULARLY mounted rebellions/insurgencies (in the 1950s, in the 1970s, in the 1990s and recently) in order to create a separate Mohammadin state.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Read the following too to know how bloodthirsty muslims are in India one hell of an appeasing entity.
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/facebook-post-sparks-islamist-mob-fury-in-bengal-cops-stay-cooped-up-in-thana
PRCS says
Thanks for that link.
notmoron says
Can you imagine if those mass Graves were muslims?
PRCS says
Per Janakiraman Rajalakshmi’s link, above:
http://tinyurl.com/y7qjayvh
Facebook Post Sparks Islamist Mob Fury In Bengal; Cops Stay Cooped Up In Thana
“The arrest of the boy who allegedly posted the offensive message [an offensive cartoon denigrating a Muslim shrine] on Facebook failed to assuage the Islamists. They demanded the police hand him over to them so that he can be stoned to death as per the Sharia.
Yes, I can imagine what would happen were that the case.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Exactly.
Muslims are the most insane & most pampered by various appeasers in the guise of politicians.
An insight into their double standards :-
http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=4440
//Begum Khaleda Zia of bangladesh says ”“I regret the continuing massacre of Hindus and Buddhists in Bangladesh, but Bangladesh is an Islamic Nation and not secular. Under the circumstances, if Hindus and Buddhists want to live safely, they should either convert to Islam or go to India.”
Maulana Badruddin Ajmal of Assam stated, “Hindus do not have any rights to vote in Arab, Pakistan or any of the 56 Islamic Nations. I challenge: has even a single Hindu the strength (guts) to impose restrictions on our voting rights in India?”
Asaduddin Owaisi, a muslim politician stated, “Hindus shouldn’t make the mistake of considering Indian Muslims any different from the Pakistan Muslims. If India may dare to attack Pakistan, then 25 crore Indian Muslims will join Pakistan forces and fight against India”. And he talks of compassion to be shown to Rohingya refugees.
If the OIC nations, particularly those flush with petro dollars, can extend financial aid to Islamist fundamentalists the world over, they can surely aid the refugees and admit Rohingyas into their own countries .However, the OIC group of 57 nations is unwilling to welcome Muslim refugees//
One Hindu NRajaram incisively captures the truth ” It is curious that in J&K, Rohingyas are settling in Jammu and Ladakh where Muslims are in minority and not in the Muslim majority Kashmir. The plan is clear. To change the demographics of the state in favour of Muslims”.
India is not a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention. India’s national security interests outweigh all other considerations, especially given the spread of ISIS affiliates in Bangladesh and India. It cannot allow the intellectually bankrupt human rights activists to plunge it into a communal cauldron.
Like obama of America It is the Congress Party that is responsible for the rapid demographic transition sweeping various districts of West Bengal and Assam. They failed to ensure the return of Bangladeshi refugees of 1971 and used them as a ‘vote bank’//
It is this muslim vote bank that elected one khan as mayor of UK. It is this muslim vote bank that ensured Geert Wilders did not win the elections.
I also read islamic bangladesh receiving funds from rich islamic countries is feeding ONLY rohingya muslims refugees in their camps & DENYING food , water etc to Hindus & Buddhists among the refugees.
When they call themselves islamic countries why should India , America & Europe call themselves secular democracies & end up embracing the dangerous muslims ?
In India muslims are the most pampered. So pampered & feared not a single appeaser hires muslims as their bodyguards. They are encouraged to ride roughshod over Hindus by slaughtering Cows , Calves & Buffaloes , consume & export Beef , smuggle them across to islamic bangladesh with impunity.
Various pro muslim journos ( like atish taseer etc etc ) remain unfazed at muslims penchant for stoning to death & jihadism but hyperventilate on alleged cow “vigilantes”.
Muslims like mj.akbar who was with congress party for many years now with bjp refuse to own up the problem is with their ideology / religion. Instead generalize pontificating ”terrorism is a global phenomenon & needs to be tackled globally”. These heavily articulate ( in English) muslims have been perennially wooing palestinians & vilifying Jews & Israel for decades.
PRCS says
“Muslims…refuse to own up the problem is with their ideology / religion.”
mj akbar and a billion+ of his fellow supremacists.
John Hawk says
A Sunni was going down from Rakhine, when he was attacked by Islamists not of his clan. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. An Alawite imam happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Shi’ite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.
But a Hindu, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man in his own cart, brought him to a safe shelter.
“Look after him, clothe him, and feed him,” he said, “and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.”
And when the Sunni was restored to health, in recompense he slew the Hindu and violated the man’s wife and sold his daughter into slavery, for it was pleasing to the psychotic Allah and his Messenger, the vile and morally bankrupt Muhammad, on account that an unclean Kaffir deserves no better than subjugation or death.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Good one.
But the Hindus refuse to become wiser.
PRCS says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhXjd88SFrk
brane pilot says
The Rohingya have ‘religious issues’ with birth control and average family size runs 7 to 10 children.The only way an overbreeding Muslim minority in a crowded non-Muslim country can continue breeding like rabbits is by ethnically cleansing its neighbors and expanding its no-go zone via terrorism and insurgency. The Rohingya are getting foreign help in pursuit of this strategy.
In this case, the non-Muslim neighbors pushed back and now the world cries over the Rhoingya ‘refugees’. So many children.
Where was the world when what the Rohingya are doing in Myanmar was being done to the Buddhists of Iran, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Malaysia… where Buddhism is now extinct.
This is an ancient game that is being played. The Buddhists are making a stand in Myanmar.
The world needs to back off.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
All muslims have issues with birth control. They take multiple wives & keep producing too many children.
gravenimage says
Myanmar: Mass graves found as Rohingya Muslims massacre Hindus, burn their homes, kidnap women for marriage
……………………….
Do these sound like the actions of people fleeing persecution? Or do they sound like the actions of Muslims persecuting their victims?
Robert says
I love how the article blames, in part, the British Empire for the current problems. Did you catch it?
“Violence has periodically cut through the western state, where communal rivalries have been sharpened by British colonial meddling…” Yet Myanmar gained independence from Great Britain in 1948 — 69 years ago! Nearly seven decades have passed since Britain ruled there. The indigenous men and women who lived under colonial rule are, largely, dead and buried.
How long before Myanmar puts on its big boy pants?
gravenimage says
Robert wrote:
I love how the article blames, in part, the British Empire for the current problems. Did you catch it?
…………….
Yes, I caught that, Robert. As if Muslims ever needed an excuse to slaughter Infidels!
TL says
The British empire is responsible also for much of the modern racial stife with the subsaharan Africans in the USA. Suffice it to say that the Africans’ presence here, as in Europe, has no net benefits. Also, a little even tempered thinking about the Great War can lead us to an entirely plausible hypothesis: The British imperialist wanted war on the continent to undermine his rising rivals, Russia and Germany, which soon succumbed to collectivist dictatorships thanks to the destabilizing effects of the war upon their domestic politics.
gravenimage says
What a lot of tripe from Fascist apologist TL. He is still angry that Britain dared to oppose the Nazis–that’s what he means by “tempered thinking”–that Hitler was not so bad.
And the idea that the British Empire is responsible for Jihad conquest–which has been going on for 1400 years–is ludicrous.
IanB says
Bitter rhetorical question: “What did the British Empire do for us?”
Well, it built roads and railways, bridges, tunnels, shipyards, docks, provided sanitation systems, irrigation where needed, democratic government, a legal system, education, defence against piracy, benefits of science and technology of the time …
“Yes, but what did the British Empire do for us?”
(Apologies to the Monty Python team).
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
@TL,
bbc till date is heavily biased towards muslims of India , Pakistan & Bangladesh.
While documenting Partition bloodshed bbc portrayed muslims as ”victims”. Only some perfunctory noises were made about Hindus & sikhs slain by the muslims with axes & swords.
It is only some Hindu Blogs in muslim appeasing dhimmified India that wrote in detail about what actually transpired.
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/remembering-gopal-mukherjee-the-braveheart-who-saved-calcutta-in-1946
Read it fully to know mujibur rehman who congressi indira khan ( she is no Gandhi but a muslim who had two muslim husbands…nehru too was no kashmiri Pandit but a muslim half brother of sheikh abdullah) ”liberated” spurning Henry Kissinger & Richard Nixon was but another bloodthirsty jihadi.
bbc is never going to report these facts. bbc is heavily funded by rich islamists.
Sarah says
The answer is as simple as it is reasonable. Send the murderous monster’s straight back to Bangladesh. That’s where they arose from initially. That’s where they originally spread out from.
Send them back there and nowhere else. This is not India’s problem or responsibility. And I for one, do not blame Myanmar in the slightest.
If there was ever such a thing as a ‘peaceful religion’ then its Buddhism. But if you push them back into the corner and give them no way out at all – they WILL fight – and they are frightening in their ferocity.
These are Asian Buddhists. Not Westerners. They do not have our cultural values – and that’s fine – so we cannot enforce OUR values on how we expect the Buddhists to behave. Their people have been routinely raped, assaulted, robbed, terrorized and murdered for too many years to count, at the hands of the Rohingya.
The Rohingya are like every other group of Muslims on the planet. All they do when faced with a group of others who do not share their filthy ideology, is commit utterly inexcusable and unforgivable atrocities – and then turn around and cry, plead and carry on pretending to be the victim. They are animals.
The Burmese are just finally cleaning their houses of the scum and mould that has set in. Leave them to do it, they have every right. If the Rohingya want to live – then they can scuttle back to Bangladesh.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
bangladesh is an islamic country. Hence refusing to accept them into their islamic country. All islamic countries are busy exporting their jihadists to India , Europe , America & UK. And then play the victims.
Michael Copeland says
“You can be full of love and kindness, but you cannot sleep next to a mad dog”
Ashin Wirathu
Buddhist monk activist
Halaku says
A pity there’s no one in the Church with the clear sight and courage of this man.
Joe says
The Rohingyas are obviously the same muslims oppressing women and others like in the ME. I saw women wearing headscarfs and even burkas in Myanmar. The leftist narrative is of course these poor muslims are innocent. Life experience says they are lying!
Infidel says
I have written this at length before. In whichever country Muslims go in as minority, they EXPLOIT the RIGHT-LEFT ideology and political divide to the core. And since Islam is ALWAYS against nationalism, the LEFT becomes their facultative cronies… And Islam makes sure that the RIGHT never wins in any election or wins very narrowly. All over the free-world, including India and other countries like Thailand, Philippines, Israel etc, U see this phenomena…I just wonder s to when the world is going to wake up to this insidious Trojan..
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
+1
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Highly perceptive of you. I wish all non muslims wake up at least now.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“‘We were barbers for Muslims, our women sold things in Muslim villages, I had Muslim friends, we had no problems,’ said Kyaw Kyaw Naing, a 34-year-old Hindu …”
Interesting that the Christians of Syria and Iraq have the same thing to say: “we all got along until the hardliners came along, then those who we thought were our friends turned on us.” So there really is no such thing as a moderate Mohammadin, just “lapsed” Mohammadins
Halaku says
During the Partition, Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan were shocked the same way, discovering their nice and friendly next door neighbors suddenly turned very very different strangers after Muslims gained the upper hand when Pakistan was formed.
gravenimage says
Grimly true. We see this all the time, when Muslims become a majority they are not so friendly…
Peacemaker says
Muslims are permitted to eliminate infidels but when infidels fight back, the lefts will condemn the infidels instead of Muslims.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
I remember reading a detailed article which established without mincing words ” bangladeshi muslims would starve to death if only India STOPS smuggling Cows , calves Buffaloes across to islamic bangladesh & STOPS exporting / sending BEEF”.
Very SIMPLE solution. Yet who is busy smuggling all Cows , Buffaloes , Calves across – the politicians of Kerala ( all communists , congressis with muslim allies & muslim vote bank) , politicians of West Bengal & Tamil Nadu . Lot of Cows get smuggled from Tamil Nadu also.
Forget good for nothing dhimmis of india. If Donald Trump is serious enough ought to exterminate
( literally) . depopulate all these politicians of India. Saudi Arabia & other GCC countries would not be averse to such a proposition as the converted muslims of bangladesh , india , pakistan are NOT considered muslims proper by ARABS.
This alone would ensure lasting Peace for the world in general. Take the help of CHINA too but do get rid of all the appeasing politicians & terrorists of India.
Till 9/11 happened Hindus never uttered a word about islam. NEVER bothered to take a hard look at islam & muslims . Till date remain the same salivating at bollywood shah rukh khans & playing cricket with pakitan , bangladesh etc. obama wanted to introduce cricket into America & do away with Baseball. Indians were ecstatic as cricket is their religion.
TassieR says
“The establishment media continues to portray the Rohingya Muslims as the victims of “Buddhist terror” – for this vile “establishment media” nothing ever changes! Just remember the total media silence during the Nurnberg Trial about the Katyn mass graves: their Soviet darlings just couldn’t be anything but poor victims of the loathsome Nazi propaganda…
Halaku says
Are the Rohingyas same as the people of Rakhaing/Rakhine/ Aracan province, who once upon a time used to be the notorious pirates of the upper Bay of Bengal? Fryer described them in 1673 as “A mixture of that Race, the most accursedly base of all Mankind who are known for their Bastard brood lurking in the Islands at the Mouths of the Ganges, by the name of Racanners”
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Yes indeed. They are the same notorious pirates.
Pal says
Ashin Wirathu:
!!
“You can be full of kindness and love, but you cannot sleep next to a mad dog,”
“If we are weak, our land will become Muslim”.
!!
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